tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4065406139986258489.post909048926848308690..comments2023-07-27T05:49:05.756-07:00Comments on C. Orthodoxy: Selfishness and Sacrifice in LOST: There’s No Place Like HomeKen Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08014885672703727636noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4065406139986258489.post-34993066618140439402008-06-28T06:36:00.000-07:002008-06-28T06:36:00.000-07:00this has been rolling around in the back of my min...this has been rolling around in the back of my mind -- thanks for putting it into words. It's a powerful theme, and although my heart sinks with every step jack takes toward downhill, I have been inspired by the change I've seen in sawyer. amazing show.Chanda Canuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14296956746154503203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4065406139986258489.post-88866081706683910142008-05-31T14:54:00.000-07:002008-05-31T14:54:00.000-07:00Great post. Thank you for drawing out that messag...Great post. Thank you for drawing out that message so clearly.AnneDroidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15381935612631976494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4065406139986258489.post-61795863259785547592008-05-31T08:57:00.000-07:002008-05-31T08:57:00.000-07:00I really like that analysis of Jack as a descripti...I really like that analysis of Jack as a description of what he has <I>become</I>, but he hasn't always been this way. In the first couple seasons especially he was <I>genuinely</I> selfless, and didn’t show any real obsession or rage. But since the end of Three, even though he has continued to do many selfless <I>things</I>, you can definitely see that a shift has occurred in his motivation, and so his results. I wonder if it was his time imprisoned by the Others which started his decline? The timing is about right.<BR/><BR/>I’m glad you brought up the Jack-Kate-Sawyer relationship. It seems like a microcosm of the whole selfless/selfish tension as the two guys also bring out these aspects of Kate's personality, but again the roles have been switched – now it’s Sawyer who brings Aaron to Kate to care for when Claire disappears, while Jack leave Kate to care for him (his nephew!!) by herself!<BR/><BR/>Oh, but I don't think you need to worry about Sawyer kicking the bucket; he's the most popular character. Though did you see that he (along with Desmond) was one of the two "alternates" they filmed in the coffin so that the cast and crew wouldn't be able to spoil the ending?Ken Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08014885672703727636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4065406139986258489.post-60043090695112257422008-05-31T06:14:00.000-07:002008-05-31T06:14:00.000-07:00ken, wow, i can see the advantage of watching the ...ken, wow, i can see the advantage of watching the series over a short period of time - you really pick up on some good stuff i've missed/forgotten! i particularly like how you articulate the play between selflessness/sacrifice and selfishness. i noticed a bit of that, but it didn't really click (or articulate it nearly as well as you) until i read your post.<BR/><BR/>sawyer's "baptism" was one of the other things i missed. oh, no. moments like that tend to doom island residents to death, ack.<BR/><BR/>and, if your interested, yesterday i ran across this tidbit on <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Shephard" REL="nofollow">wikipedia's site on jack shephard</A>:<BR/><BR/>"Throughout the series, it has been stated numerous times that Jack is a natural leader. This has been demonstrated many times by his ability to think quickly and analyze crisis situations. Jack intentionally represses many of his emotions of fear and anxiety, usually in order to remain strong for the other crash survivors. The emotion that he seems to repress most, however, is his deep love for Kate Austen, which he has only twice ever fully admitted to, and even then only once in a very emotional tone of voice. This seems to be because he believes that Kate does not/cannot love him, but rather loves Sawyer, and therefore, there is no point in telling her of his deep devotion. Jack's habit of repression sometimes does flare out, usually in his propensity to become violent when he is enraged. He is also prone to become highly obsessive, which also can lead to violence. Jack is a deeply self-centered person and his quest to get his crashmates off the island is mostly about his inability to relinquish control and his fear of failure and loss of respect."<BR/><BR/>interesting, eh. i don't know who wrote it up, but it's an interesting way to look at jack.Carmen Andreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16611988330284931136noreply@blogger.com